Forgiving One Another By Merv Topp After six months of our first year, we really commenced some Christian work. And in those years we've been called on for many things. But we've been called on a lot to help with the ministry of reconciliation. Late one night, on a Saturday night, I get a phone call. And the brother was on the edge of tears. And he rings up and he said, have you got a message of some kind up your sleeve for tomorrow morning? I said, why brother, why? He said, the church is split and three quarters of the church have walked out, he said. It's a long, sad story. And I said I would go. I got there and it reminded me of the first funeral I ever conducted. The people's faces were long and drawn. I hadn't known that it had been going through nonsense for quite a long time. What had happened is the man had got in the church as the pastor and he pointed all of his family to major roles within the church. And it's just ground to a halt. And I can still see us that day as we ask, and I search my heart as to what we should look at. You know? It wasn't the time for that morning to be any clappy, chappy, chappy, chappies at all, was it? And since I stood before the congregation, and I read the verses that our brother read this evening to you. Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion and kindness, humility and gentleness and patience. Bearing with each other and forgiving whatever grievances you may have against another, forgiving as the Lord has forgiven you. It was considerably electric, I suppose. The voice come from what was left of the body of the congregation. You don't know, brother, what we have been through. I said, and I don't want to know. But what I'm bringing you today is God's Word on the subject. And being you ask me, I will not back away from that subject. Somewhere down through the day and the weeks to come, you will meet somebody at a shopping centre. It used to sit with you in your church. What will you say to them? What will transpire? See, it's the same sort of thing that happened to me in the exclusive brethren. A lot of people don't know that I lost my job, I had a broken engagement, I'd already been kicked out of house and home. I was disenfranchised. And I don't know what it is to be disenfranchised by Christians. And so, we've got to go to the Word and be challenged by the Word of God. It's where we stand. No matter what kind of situation we fight, find ourselves in. In the struggle, in the Christian life on this earth, there will come times of difficulty because we live still in the body of flesh. And we still struggle with our old nature, each one of us. We have not yet arrived. But good news is coming, friends. It's timeless coming when we'll be clothed in immortality, a new body, in His righteousness. Because the damn payment has already been made. There is a deposit. When we shall be like Him and where He is. So the issue comes as we face. We talked about what it is this morning. The greatness of what is to be brought into the Kingdom of God under the authority of the Gospel. And the Gospel changes people's lives. Now sin is forgiven. But now we move to a situation where we look at forgiving one another. I'm not real fond of the Good News Bible. But in the Good News Bible, I think it is in this passage actually, there's a little stick figure drawing about bearing one another's burdens. And if for nothing else, as for that stick figure drawing, I think it's very good. Because you have a photo that's going across the page and somebody's holding a bundle on the back, on the back of someone else in front. And somebody in turn is holding the black for that black bundle, bearing one another's burdens. And the only way we can do that is that Christ has borne the main burden. The penalty of your guilt and my guilt of sin. Burdens, we sing sometimes, are lifted at Calvary. Aren't they? And when we come, the first flush of the time in our lives, when we come to faith in Christ and we hear the Gospel and all the excitement of what it is to come to trust Jesus as our own personal Saviour and it seems like every morning the sun is rising in the right place and nothing seems to be going wrong. And the first flush will come across our hearts. It goes on, be careful, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness, patience, bearing each other, forgiving whatever grievances you may have against one another, forgiving as the Lord forgave you. This is not an optional extra. I'm old enough to remember the 1956 Holden coming out. Remember it? Holden's special. And it had its special on it, that's the only thing it was special about because it said it was special. And you bought it without mud flaps and it had one toilet in the middle of the back. And the windscreen wipers were something else, weren't you? You put your foot down and the more you put the foot down the slower the wipers went because of the vacuum driven things, you know that. They just barely keep your back off and it knocks itself out. And anything else you did to it was extra. And that's sometimes we think just like that. And so as we come to this, for Christians to be willing to forgive, unforgiving is the unthinkable. Now I know, I know that people can be heard. I can still see that morning all those years ago as I stood before this congregation. And that's before it happened, do you think Elizabeth had come with too so she could play the organ, even the organist had gone, you know. And it was incredible. And so I determined to preach on this until I seen a change in the people's faces. And I told them so, we might be here for a while. We may be here for all afternoon. I think it might have been on the fact of that threat that people started to tucker up a little bit. And by the end of the time as we sat down over a cup of tea outside afterwards, people saw why I brought this message to them. Because there's going to come a time. Praise God the church, the other church has gone on and done its thing and it's divided several times since, over nine essentials. That the church that was divided is packed and overflowing with the streams. Because from that point on they kept the main game, the main game. My dear child of God, the main game is to tell others of the good news that's in Christ Jesus. Our war against the blood and flesh goes on. We fight not against flesh and blood, but spiritual wickedness. Enemies are out to see, he can trip us up. If you remember Pilgrims Progress, it's easy to get off in the by-path meadows. It's easy to get off the track. It's easy to get stuck down. You know, I can remember in the movie that was made in Ireland, all Irish characters done it. All the voices were Irish. And Mr Wellley ways, he had a very Irish accent. Come to the city that's fair. And the enemy is always beseeching us to get off and get away. And what brought people back in the life of Pilgrims Progress? Can you remember what brought people back? Evangelist, interpreter. They cast themselves in that bunion head wise enough to get us back into the scriptures, back into the word of God, back into the things that matter most. Forgiving whatever grievances. I don't know what the grievances were. I have no idea. You see, what it's based on is who we have done. Forgiven by God himself, have no right to withhold forgiveness from our fellow sinners. That's the challenge. That's the challenge. This is the bible challenge. I'm not talking about anything that happens. I'm giving illustrations that I hope help you. I'm going to give one illustration and I'll lay the background again to how I seem to get myself into these things at times. So, I got a message one day. I was out in the mission field some years ago. And a friend of mine got in touch with me. He said, Merv, he said, so and so has fallen into sin gravely. And when he told me what sort of sin, I sat down and I wept and wept and wept. When I got back, the denomination he was serving the Lord in, took his car off him, his wage off him, dismissed him, got rid of him, everything I could possibly do. Now it was a grievous sin. I will not minimize it for a minute. So I sit myself down with my thumbnail dipped in tar and scribbles out a letter to him. Dear brother, at this stage I do not wish to find out anything else but that I'm here for you if you feel you can talk to somebody. I'm here for you. Come and see me if you will, if you can. Allow me to come and see you. Time goes by. Time goes by. And then I'm in my study, my office is near, where people got wiped by. He and his wife walked past the office window, knocked on the front door. She went in and sat down with Elizabeth and he come and sat with me. And the whole of his life just flowed out. Such sadness. It was adultery. With all kinds of things happen. Even the circumstances I'm going to share with you anyway, he flowed out and I decided to take myself and see the head of his denomination. He had no idea what he was doing. He had degrees from here to the front door. Fahrenheit. Unbelievable. He had a degree. And I said, where is the Ministry of Reconciliation? Where is the Ministry of Recovery? He got fairly indignant with me. And annoyed. I said, listen, pal, I know that Elizabeth was a very reverend, very, very, very reverend, something or other, something or other. As I said, look, he had from here to... He deceived us, he says. Yes, I said in the same tone of language, but the snare of the devil. I have no need to tell you the Greek or the Hebrew, you know that all anyway. And I decided to press this man right into his corner. I said, you did nothing that I can see that led towards his recovery. I gave him one, I had two cars at the time because I was using a mission car. I gave him a car. I said, now, look, he poured out his heart. We were there till two in the morning. I said, we're gonna start working a process of working through this. And the reason I decided we could do this is his wife had come with him and she wanted recovery. She wanted to forgive him. She wanted to see it restored. And after our little cold occasion with this guy, I'm not gonna use his name, it was your... I worked with this dear brother for six years, six years. And we'd meet together. Talk about restoration. I could never do this, what I could do and everything like this. Then at about the seventh year, I get a phone call. Only fell over. This was his right honorable very reverend. Good evening, Mervyn. So and so here. Here's what happened. He said, what can I do for you? He said, Doug, look, I understand that you've been working with so and so. That's correct. How'd you know that? He said, we'd like to talk with you. I said, good, I'll come over to you. And here was these lineup of lunar gentlemen. Look at Al Rufus here. He just came in off the road, I think. I just pulled myself up a chair and I deliberately turned it around the other way so I sit and straddle and land on the back of it. And what can I do for you? He said, we were wrong how we treated your efforts to recover this man. And what we want to ask you now is would he be fit enough to go back? To go back into the eldership of our church? I didn't think that day would ever come. The vilest offender who truly believes a moment from Jesus, a pardon received. Friends, I want to tell you, if the gospel works the first time and people can be reconciled to God, it must surely work again when we fall. Otherwise, there'd be no room for any of us tonight here in this church. No room when we fall and stumble and trip up and do things that are done secretly even. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves. The truth is not in us. But if we confess our sins, he is faithful, unjust. Yes, there must be repentance. Yes, there must be ministry of repentance. There must be work of the Spirit of God in the heart of a person. The heart of each heart, forgiving one another, restoring. The end goal of all discipline in the church, I believe, is restoration. If somebody sins against him, go and see him and restore him. He that is spiritual. And I tell you, sometimes we don't feel too spiritual. But I want to ask you, if there's no way home, after Saint Paul's, how can we be guaranteed the gospel is good enough to save us in the first place? People stumble. People do stumble. And it's horrendous, sometimes it happens. And it grieves the heart of God and it grieves those that are around us. But you see, here is the way back home. Be kind to one another, tender, hard of forgiving one another. And this is not brushing it under the carpet, by the way. This is not, oh, well, it's all right, don't worry about it, it'll be okay. I'm not talking about that. Yes, there must be a recognition of sin. No back door back to God. I tried pushing the back door for years, for 11 years. Never did find one. Just as God in Christ also forgave you. It brings us back to what? Gospel. The gospel. No, we don't want to see people fall. We don't want to see people stumble. Well, I see, but there is, must be a way home. Must be a way home. I'm gonna say tonight, if you've never come to this place of mercy and cast yourself on the mercy of God, seek his grace and forgiveness. By grace you're saved through faith. This not of yourself, the gift of God. God has sent out the invitation for you and to me. Coming down the front here won't help you much. Same piece of carpet here is back up there, if you want to get on your knees. What's required of us is a repentant, repentant heart and a broken heart to set ourselves right with God. Since God commands us to forgive others, refusing to do so is an act of direct disobedience against him. You know, I think I've said this before. Those of you who have arrived and are perfect, please let us know. Put up your hands. You can't do it. Neither can I. By grace you're saved. By grace you've kept. By grace you come under the hand of God. His preserving grace and perseverance grace Oh, we need so much to keep a short account with God. We need to be very, and this is what I like at times, we need to be very confessional before the throne of grace. Very confessional. We need to keep our hearts subdued before the Lord. Forgiveness reflects the character of God. You're here not because of God's grace. You're here because of God's mercy. You're here not because of the labor of your homes. You're here because of God's grace. Unforgivingness is ungodly. And that's what I said to this. I said to him, he almost looked at me, have the cheek to say to me, the reverend, I don't care if you've done exams and pass them, my friend. If you're unforgiving, you're unforgiving and you're unbiblical. Boy, that really affected him. Yet I think I was able to say praise the Lord when he rang us six years later. I've preached to him I've preached for that brother that I told you about. This has happened years ago now in the church that he passes. And I've encouraged him to throw his sins into the depth of the feet. As far as the east is from the west, so he separates our transgressions. Like Corrie ten Boom says, and you direct a sign over to cast your sin and that sign reads, no fishing. That includes even the people of God in the church. So there is such a thing of recovery. There is such a thing as restoration. There is such a thing to acknowledge. But sometimes our forgiveness is as equal to offense to God as fornication and drunkenness. If we have an unforgiving spirit, unrestoring heart. What right are we then if we can't do the ministry of reconciliation, what right are we then to go and preach the gospel in England? Forgiveness is an integral part of the Christian's new nature, new life in Christ. We can't have new life until we know the greatness of the forgiveness of sins. Peace with God. It's one of the first books that Billy Graham ever wrote, Peace with God. Still worthwhile reading. Might have changed my thought on a few things he said and that, but still worthwhile reading. Peace with God. So when we see professing Christians who are stubborn and refuse to relinquish a grudge, we have to question the genuineness of their faith. Had a man in the Brethren Assembly who I attended years ago. For 40 years he sat in that assembly. He carried with him for 40 years something had said to him in his early teens, early, in his 20s. For 40 years he had never partaken of the Lord's Supper. And I said, hasn't anybody asked him why? Hasn't anybody sat down on him? He sat down and he went over what had happened to him. It was 44 years ago. He'd carried this with him like a burden with him of this unforgiven unrestored spirit. I can still see him to this day. I remember sitting in his lounge room and I leaned forward. But isn't it time you put it down? And he broke down in tears. I said, isn't it time you gave it over to the Lord and put it down? Why carry it on your chest for so long? He just howled like a child. I was there for an hour or two with him and he broke bread with us the following Sunday morning for the first time in about 44 years that it was. He put it down for the first time. You see how holding it in can hold us. Let me give you another one. I was in the Kimberleys. The Aboriginal people hold grudges for a long time too. And we're there one day and poor old Maggie had done something and they were all crooked on Maggie. Maggie's always been like this old Aboriginal lady says. She did this, this, this and this and this. So I thought, hmm. So we start talking. When did that happen? Oh, well, you know she did it there when she was a while ago. No, no, no. That's what I asked her. Was it last year? Oh, no, no, no, no. And I kept working on the years. And it was 1937. I was born in 39. I said, sister, that is before I was born. And you're still holding it around as though it was a couple of years ago. See, it's possible to carry hurts all that time. Now, I know what it is to be hurt. Don't you worry about that. Huh? You sound a bit like old JBL. Don't you worry about that. I know that. Yeah. See, forgiveness must come from the heart. Restoration must come. There must be a recognition of sin but a forsaking of that sin and moving forward whether you're 14 or 84 it doesn't matter. You can't hold on to it and have that joyous Christian life. And so that's the challenge. Forgiveness requires setting aside our selfishness, accepting the grace and wrongs others have committed against us and not demanding what we think is our duty. Huh? You see, we've got to go back to Christ. I'll never forget the heady days amongst what was the exclusive brethren. They were terrible days. We'd have business meetings that went till one o'clock in the morning and I tell you at one o'clock in the morning nobody's thinking right. I think we've got to we ought to conduct our business like the Queen conducts her business meeting with the Parliament. They come to see her they stand up and conduct a ministry that stops them from yabbering on for so long. Huh? We should all stand up at the church business meeting and say we've got to say then we can sit down and go home. Selfishness. Putting aside those things that are committed against us that demand what we think of they do. All that reigns and encounters how naturals are sinful inclination. So we need to be in challenge. Even as new creatures we retain and a remembrance of sin in our flesh. Sinful habitants sinful desires. Accountants and plague us. My dad become a Christian in salvation he only had little little sheet that he had to form. A sign when he committed his life to Christ he had to he wouldn't drink or not to smoke. I never could tell anyone I said what about the one run around with bad women? And he'd pick that and look at it it was not on there I said alright gee I'm glad of that. And dad worried about it because he he knocked off his smoking which was about 100 cigarettes a day tailored him back to about 20. And he had terrible emphysema when emphysema when he died. But he loved the Lord. I'll never get one sign at one time when a major dunce he come down to see us and he come to visit him oh he said no he said he nearly screamed me today did he? I said why? He said oh he come round the corner he said just straight out of a cigarette oh just in time he said he didn't catch me. See sometimes always kept reinforcing to dad the greatness of salvation the greatness of God's grace. I reckon my father must have read every book I had in the library on Job for some reason rather he had an obsession of reading Job and I just left him with it. See as we go through so we have remnants of the sinful nature of one of us oh I recommend you get that book by John Owen you know Portifying the deeds of the body or the indwelling sin within the believer I had one here the last time I was here there was three of Owen's works in one volume and the English had been made into this century rather than the 16th yeah that's the one three volume three three and one yeah death of death yeah that's the one yeah that's the one I had it's fantastic it gives you a picture of what we're like yeah we don't fight against flesh and blood but we you know a sinful nature is a thing that comes up against all the time so we need to confess our sins lay them down you know you know see the whole idea of confessional that grew in the church was not a bad idea but it got out of hand people had to try on a dollar or two in the finish but we too should confess our sins we're told what confess our faults one to another well that takes a bit of the gift of conversation gossip or whatever you might want and so you see we need to look at now also we need to remember that if we're unforgiving when Jesus is saying that if you refuse to forgive your Heavenly Father this is why people say why are we going to be forgive because there has consequences in your life and mine I've seen people that as I've already said hold it to their chest being unforgiven the people don't want to be restored because they're happy as soon as he was free to go and do something he got forgiven he goes and he extracts the last sent from this other bloke he said no really and we can be just like that we want to have forgiveness but let me get even with this other bloke I'll get it out four hundred and eighty five four hundred and eighty five four hundred and eighty six four hundred and eighty seven four hundred and eighty seven times seventy that's not given as a number where we say oh we're keeping in check here ah we've reached this one four hundred and seventy one that's it you're not going to get forgiven is it that forgiveness is based on the work of Christ upon Calvary's cross it's working through if you refuse to forgive our Heavenly Father will discipline and severely your sin of unforgiveness the power of the unforgiven service is often misunderstood and the context contains something of the scriptures which is truth about I've given it for Matthew six and we had this this morning Matthew six and ah verse twelve forgive us our debts as we also forgive our debtors that's the consequences of action I must tell you about this I had a poor possibility of the presbyterian many years ago out of Ballarat and I got up there and they always say the Lord's prayer I got up in this this is beside the message now and I got up in this pulpit and it's like a crows nest that's off a wall and I and you climb round the ladder and it goes round and it's up here about here somewhere about fifteen feet above contradiction and it creaked and groaned all the way with me going up and I thought I was going to tear off a wall with me heart and I got to the Father which in heaven hallowed be your name and your I couldn't think of what else come next well it's terrible when that happens here's something you know so well here's something we know so well about forgiving our debtors as we forgive our debtors you see the Jewish custom what was the there was a year of what? Jubilee where all the debts were wiped clean the other old Pope the old John Paul had a year where they tried to get everybody to wipe clean everything you know he didn't want to affect effect our home town no that's not him lead us on a temptation to deliver us from the evil for if we forgive men when they sin against us your heavenly Father will forgive you these are weighty words here you know forgive you but if you do not forgive men their sins your Father will not forgive your sins now this deserves a lot more time I know this passage of scripture but it's teaching us how to live here it's challenges in relation maybe this Peter might do a series I don't know arranging Peter preaching roster for the next whatever but you see there is a need for forgiveness there is a need for restoration I remember I took on on upsets in a church once and they had one half of the church it was a clever photo they had one half of the church facing this way and the other half of the church facing that way now brethren used to build buildings that were a bit like that anyway so we had one building that all the front the back all faced the front and you come in and look at the front first it was a weird sort of a setup you come in and think about forgiveness it's a very big challenge for us how many times how many times if we offence it's sincerely forgotten can we hold it against the offender again forgiveness means getting on with the task after it's been forgiven and so this is a real challenge and so we're faced with this constantly in our families our teenagers our homes our children loved ones I just recently spent a fair bit of time with my aunt and she's telling me about something that happened to her I said I've got to ask you something when was this and she said oh well it was when Uncle Herb and Auntie Mary got married and how long have they been dead I said why worry about it why I find it out as though it's all happened yesterday I think this happened because of part of our former mates by the way does forgiveness then have a limit common centrists seem to suggest that repeat offenders should not be granted pardon indefinitely well I'm going to tell you San Francisco have just come down and I rather like the way they dealt with the road rangers the people that get out and do wheelies down the road if you caught a second time that's it and they had a photo of what was going to happen and these two young blokes had two new Hondas and a Honda doesn't look much of a Honda when they're that square they just put it in the press and flatten it for them that stopped the road rangers there's been no more deaths since they've been taking their cars and scratching them right down to a little block that big it seems to have stopped it so old auntie has come down very tight on road rage you can tear on up and down the road wheelies and burnouts has consequence actually sometimes does have consequences right do we keep count when nothing can do will give true forgiveness sometimes we've got to hand them over the Bible tells us hand them Paul handed them over to Satan sometimes we've got to hand people over to the Lord and leave them with the Lord you see we've got to be accountable to the Lord for the things we do in the body and when we fail to get a proper restoration or proper thing sometimes we've got to hand it over to the Lord I've had to do that too a number of times with people so then true forgiveness we cannot hold forever against the offender what's our response I want to take us over just briefly to 1 Corinthians and then we've got to head home I suppose 1 Corinthians 13 and 5 and he's talking about and he's talking about love is patient love is kind does not envy does not boast it is not proud it is not rude it's not self seeking I like the way that's translated not self seeking it's incredible when you start thinking it is not easily argued it keeps no score of wrongs and um delight love does not delight in evil but rejoices in the truth it always protects and always trusts always hopes always perseveres and sometimes you've got to out run somebody when they're doing things wrong you know I know that there's parents that have had to do that with their children when everything goes wrong I've seen Christian parents have suffered greatly sometimes their children get right off the rail right off the track I've had them weep prayed with them in the past for ministry there were families that had just screwed up on drugs one guy he was 17 or something he got his life in such a mess and he wanted to get his attention and shot himself through the he had to wear a bag ever since you know terrible things had happened are they less the family's son of course they're not of course they're not those actions had consequences for that boy and at 29 years of age it wasn't until then after all these years they knelt on his knees and asked Christ to come into his life and his life was changed I've prayed for a lass for 32 years with a family I was born with when I first went to Victoria she's a lovely growing Christian God has worked in her life I trust that in the days to come God will work in your life when we see the work through issues that you work by the grace of God at some of these things they're not going to happen sometimes how we want them they're not going to work out sometimes the way you think it should happen right and we might say at times life is just not fair but these things happen you know you have disappointment we'd have loved four children just imagine four boys all like Merv Top it'd have driven you nuts right but God has been good to us we have family that call us mum and dad and ma and pa we've had the privilege of holding them all in our hands at one time or another all getting too heavy now to hold in our hands and so Christians ought to be the most forgiving people on God's earth and of course they have forgiven they have been forgiven no one else has therefore refused to forgive worthily the most severe kind of discipline from the hand of a loving father those whom the father loves he disciplines and sometimes we do and can come under the disciplining hand of God if we continue to be rebellious and not allow God to work in our lives we've got to cast ourselves back on the Lord genuine forgiveness is not fudging or suggesting something it's a genuine repentance a genuine return we've been freely given freely so we desire to be freely forgiven it means ending the bitterness laying aside anger and refusal to do things the way God has asked us to do it comes back to us constantly I want to leave you with one passage of scripture over in Jeremiah Jeremiah and I love this passage of scripture I've got it underlined in my Bible and it's marvelous verse 34 no longer will a man teach his neighbor nor a man his brother saying no the Lord because they will know me from the least of them to the greatest because the Lord I will forgive their wickedness and remember their sin no more oh the grace of God friends as we go from here I hope that how meditations and sharing with you tonight or today has been encouragement to you has been a building up for you I'd love to dunk better but I know that we can cast our eyes to just look away to him trust him for the days to come sometimes we've got to ask the Lord to work by the power of the word of God through the Holy Spirit and the lives of people we want to see a movement in their lives and sometimes we've just got to commit all that to the Lord sometimes we've just plainly got to wait the most exciting thing that I've had in these recent days is to have my nephew turn me up 30 years of age he says Uncle Merv I want to share something with you I've been praying for him since he was that big I've just trusted the Lord as my Saviour I got myself out a spare Thompson Chain reference and got it to him as quickly as possible and then top it all off his son comes home and his son he shifted school because of bullying and he went to a Christian school he came home the other week or a couple of weeks a month or two ago and said Dad I've committed my life to Christ you see for the long run that's what we're here for to see lives change sometimes it takes a long time to see that change like I said 34 years for one less and I've been praying for all those that have wandered away from the Lord oh I trust that you might see something of the Spirit of God in your own lives as God works at his fine design and plan you know sometimes we like the tapestry looking at tapestry from the back end of it you know the other side it's all strings going everywhere it doesn't make much sense you know we turn the tapestry over and all of a sudden we see this wonderful design that God is working out and he is the one that brings it to completion can we sing that hymn that we have up on the board here 5 5 8