Jesus Fulfiller of all promise and prophecy Part 3 By Graeme Goldsworthy Okay, well what's in your outline I think is that study three is about Jesus, the fulfillment of all promise and prophecy. In some ways we're sort of skirting around in circles and doing much the same thing. I don't think that's a bad thing because as long as we're not just becoming boringly repetitious. But the more sort of perspectives you can get on the same basic reality which, and after all what we're trying to do is to lay the foundations for the actual practicalities of dealing with Old Testament texts in a Christian fashion. So let me start with perhaps a couple of more little diagrams and things which apply to what we've talked about and what we will talk about. This one actually may not seem at all relevant until I explain why. It's just in a sort of a chart form, the distinction between what God has done for us and what God does in us. And why I think it's relevant is that my feeling about so much Old Testament teaching and preaching is that there has grown up this approach which is basically what we might call exemplary. Some of you may be familiar with a book which came out quite a few years ago now by, I think he's a Dutch-American, Sydney Gray Danis called Solus Coutura. And it was really, it sprang out of, it was the background that he's dealing with the subject, came out of the certain conflicts and controversies in the churches in the Netherlands around about the turn of the century over preaching from the Old Testament as to whether it could be redemptive historical, that is within the framework of moving through to Christ, or whether it would be exemplary, that is simply looking at the way characters in the Old Testament functioned and learning either how to copy them or how to avoid copying them if they were the bad guys and so on. And Gray Danis has ever since been, well that was his first, the first book that I was aware of, he's now produced some more, but he's a great champion of what he calls the redemptive historical preaching teaching, which is to put the Old Testament text into the context of the whole progressive revelation of redemptive history or salvation history that's sometimes called leading through to Christ. Now if you concentrate on the exemplary teaching, that is he's a guy doing something bad, he's a guy doing something good, therefore let us imitate them by avoiding what they do bad and doing what they do as something good. Then in the end as a quotation that Clowney has got in his book on biblical theology and preaching, a quotation I think from a Dutch theologian that says when you do that, and this is just my precis of what he said, what the footnote was about, when you do that kind of preaching you end up preaching about man, man the good, man the redemptive, man the redeemed, man the sanctified, man the sinful, etc, but never about God or only very very indirectly about God. And what we really have to see is that we are faithful to the scriptures by preaching about God and his revelation in Christ. So this kind of distinction which we make between the for us work of God and the in us work of God is very closely related to that sort of thing because if you are only preaching about the from an exemplary point of view you are then really looking at in New Testament terms the doctrine of sanctification. But if the Old Testament as well as the New Testament is showing us that sanctification is the fruit of your justification, that is what God has done for us is the grounds of what God does in us, but if you cut away the ground then you end up with only sanctification and sanctification without the gospel becomes legalism. Right, so so much Old Testament preaching and preaching is really legalistic and it's just telling you what to do and what not to do rather than what God has done for you. So you see the for us work of God and the in us work of God are very clearly distinguished in the New Testament. And what what I find so often is that both in writing and listening to people talk, I think evangelical poetism is very prone to this sort of thing. We very easily slip into the in us. I remember even talking to a guy who had come come amongst us to be a minister for evangelism in a team ministry and he said I want people to know what God can do in their lives. I said well that's an interesting start. I said what about telling them what God has done for them in the life and death of Jesus isn't that surely more important. Now he thought I've been a bit picky and I was but I thought I needed to be at that point because to me it is like an evangelical knee-jerk reaction what God has done in my life. You have testimony meetings which is a former colleague of mine said it's the protestant version of the veneration of the saints. And you know testimonies are okay up to a point. Where a testimony you know when a person gets up and says what God has done in their life, where it shines is when it actually then reflects back to Christ. So that it's not just you know once I was a wizard flower now I'm a blooming Christian syndrome. So what we what we need to recognize is the doctrine of the trinity as well as just the way the whole of the new testament works makes a distinction between the gospel concerning the son and the gracious work of God the Holy Spirit. Now because God is trinity you see this is this is where your dogmatics comes becomes so important. If if you start to think any other way and this is especially when you're dealing with the old testament any other way than as a trinitarian theologian you're in trouble. As soon as you start to think about how how God the father God the son and God the Holy Spirit relate in terms of separation even if you don't intend it to be separation but even if once you start giving the impression or that either they're separate or that you're totally confused about how they relate. You know I heard somebody get up and pray and they can't be sure they're not sure who they're praying to. Oh father God our Holy Spirit dear Jesus you know we sort of we'll get the whole three in you know one way or the other so you know and it's crying out for a biblical perspective on it as to how these relate. So the work of Jesus Christ for us is the gospel whereas the work of of the Holy Spirit in us is the fruit of the gospel it's the outworking of the gospel in our lives. It's not living the gospel it's living out the implications of the gospel. Now I'm a bit picky about that point because to say to tell people we've got to live the gospel I know what they usually mean but it's it's a poor way of expressing it and I get very picky about the use of language because I think the English language is a beautiful instrument for making good distinctions. I haven't got as many verb distinctions as the Greek language but it's still a good a good language for making clear distinctions and therefore we should not be sloppy and I think there's something about Christian responsibility in that about using using the language you know in the way that will best make the distinctions are there best make the the links that are there and so on I don't mean we have to be plummy and you know all the rest of it but language is important. The work of Jesus for us the gospel is a finished work that's important so you can't you can't add anything to something that is finished. If the finished work of Christ means anything then how you live your Christian life is not part of that it's implied by it it's demanded by it it's related to it etc etc but the relationship needs to be understood. The finished work of Christ for us is an objective work. The ongoing work of the spirit in us is a subjective work the spirit works through our minds our wills our thinking doing and so on the finished work of Christ for us the gospel is in the historic past whereas the work of the spirit is in the is in the continuous present the gospel before us work happened without us that is we weren't there and if we had been there we would have opposed it like everybody else let's face it you know if you've got any dreamy ideas I wouldn't have been wonderful to have been there when Jesus was around and don't think you know you'd have been rushing off to follow him you only would have done that if he would have graciously called you in us that happens with our consent so the one happened against our will the other happens with our consent the one is their basis of our acceptance with God this is so important you see you want people to know the basis of their acceptance with God when you're preaching from the old testament as well as the new and if you're all the time preaching exemplary sermons from the old testament examples to follow examples to avoid and so on then in the end you will start giving the impression that their acceptance with God is based on how well they're doing now the guilt-ridden Christian who wakes up every morning takes their spiritual pulse slaps the old spiritual barometer on the chest and if it goes it doesn't say holy holy holy those they're really shot to pieces the finished work for us is our justification the ongoing work is our sanctification now I don't want to get into the details of that but sanctification now I don't want to get into you know making fine distinctions between our positional sanctification and so on but I think you know what I'm talking about here our growth as a Christian one one uses the grammar of the indicative so you can't command the gospel you can only proclaim it you can command the implications of the gospel you can command people in the name of God to repent and to believe that the call to repentance and to believe is not itself the gospel it's a call to respond to the gospel so we can we can say that that to sum it up that the for us work of God is always the basis of the in us work of God now if we really believe this from the new testament then that was going to affect it must affect the way you deal with the old testament because if all you tell from the old testament is what God should be doing in your life and what he shouldn't be doing in your life and so on and how you should be responding then you have you have taken away the foundation of the for us work of God yet the old testament is full of it that's what the story is the whole the whole conflict between God and his covenant people that even even when they are in rebellion you know God makes it plain through the prophets that whatever happens he is not going to allow their rebellion to destroy his plan and purpose in the fullness of time to have a faithful remnant of people for himself that's why I have no hesitation in saying that that in looking at the unity of the covenant theme in the old testament that the covenant of the old testament although it is a unity it also has a number of different expressions as you know you have the covenant with Noah the covenant with Moses the covenant with Abraham covenant with Moses the covenant with David the new covenant in Jeremiah and the new covenant in Christ yet it's all the same covenant in my view anyway and that means that the covenant is both unconditional and conditional the unconditional nature of the covenant is God will have a people whether you like it or not and the conditional nature of the covenant is if you don't put your trust in God and accept him then you don't need to be part of God's eschaton in terms of covenant blessings and so you will find in the different covenant expressions different emphases but it's the same basic truth so the for us work of God does not happen without the in us work of God following and the reverse of course is as we've seen the in us work of God really doesn't happen without the for us work of God as the foundation that's why it is so imperative to my way of thinking that the old testament has to be treated as a book about the gospel and so then that raises of course the question how do we how do we perceive and proclaim the gospel from the old testament confuse the in us work of God for the for us work of God is to destroy the gospel and our assurance of salvation and I'm asking you not only to sort of consider that those distinctions but to take them on board with regard to dealing with the old testament a purely exemplary approach to the old testament means that you have exalted the in us work of God over and above the for us work of God when it should be the other way around you've made the in us work of God the basis of our salvation now we were talking about the need for historical theology and so on as you as you're probably all all aware the reformation was fought over this distinction put that way the medieval catholic church had inverted the gospel so that sanctification becomes the basis of your justification that that I might say is I would think it's probably the most serious distinction between catholicism and reformed protestantism and that's why I you know when I'm in the mood for dropping bricks and things I say you know there are a good many evangelical christian products you know protestant christians who are far more roman catholic in their theology than they are reformed simply because they they speak about sanctification as almost the be-all and end-all in the end whether they they say it or not they seem to be implying that your sanctification is the basis of your acceptance with God that's pure and unadulterated catholicism okay well that's that one I you know for your practical use I have found that that has been you know people people do find that making that distinction for them helpful it's just you know because that is that is an area of confusion that is simply universal I think it's it's around everywhere and we need to even keep reminding ourselves it's so easy to slip into and it happens as I've mentioned elsewhere that you know if you're preaching a series and here you know whether it's New Testament or Old Testament but say you're preaching through doing a series on say Paul's letter to the Ephesians now Paul didn't mean his letter to the Ephesians to be read over a period of six or eight weeks and he meant it to be read so that when you get to chapters four five and six he meant that to be understood in the light of chapters one two and three now if you've separated chapters four five and six from chapters one and two you know by several weeks and you don't remind people where you've come from then when you get to all the do's and don'ts in other words the grammar that you the grammar of the the indicative the is switches to the imperative the ought what we should do then people pick up the ought and fail to notice that the ought can only exist on the basis of the is exactly good okay now another another way that I have used without sort of resorting to the kingdom of God theme to just to just suggest the way things happen in the in the big picture maybe this one's better I've got a couple of versions of this it amounts to the same thing some of some of you will have seen the this sort of thing before I took I took this once I was down at SMBC quite a few years back and they asked me to do some lectures on the wisdom literature and I drew the circle diagram on the board and a great groan went up they've heard it adding to an item but I you know for those of you not familiar with this one to me it's it's a useful way see if you take that other diagram I did which had God the people of God and the place so you've got the people of God under God's rule in the place that God gives them and turn it on its side you've got reality consists of God and and this was pre-inclusive language so mankind M W for the rest of creation world okay so reality consists of God plus the creation and the bible makes it clear that there is a very important distinction to be drawn we're not pantheists or panentheists or whatever you like to think of it one one very important distinctive in in Christian theology is the distinction between God and the creation but the bible also makes it clear that within creation there is one special part of it that governs all else and that is the human race it's the only it's a distinctive part in it's the only part of creation created in the image of God and the the destiny of the rest of creation depends upon the destiny of the human race so when the human race falls the whole creation falls Romans 8 tells us when the human race is redeemed and we are revealed as the sons sons of God then the whole of creation will be redeemed with us okay so that's that's reality of creation now we can represent what happens in Genesis 3 as a fracturing of all relationships it's just a diagram it's just a suggestion don't hold you know don't expect a diagram to tell you everything it just makes the suggestion in a simple way the only relationships as I understand it that were not affected adversely by the fall of the human race into sin were the relationships between father son and holy spirit would you agree with that every other relationship in this universe was affected adversely God and the holy angels who brung him I think there's a train leaving for tare in about five minutes sorry I don't know about that one Peter um yeah I'll think about that one but generally speaking we don't know a lot about God and the holy angels do we and the fact I was only thinking about the text that Greg has selected that we should think about tonight about angels long to look into it you know that I don't think Peter is really wanting to tell us a great deal about angels he just wants to underline the the greatness of God's revelations through the prophets fulfilled in Christ but yeah good one one point to you 50 to me anyway certainly the relationship between God and the human race God and the rest of creation somehow affected now what what does God do about this if we just simply take the the bare simple fact of what is achieved by the whole progression of God's revelation and acts through the old testament and coming to its climax in Jesus Christ what we saw in our other diagram is that in Jesus Christ God puts the universe back together again that is walking around in Palestine was the new creation God in all his perfection a human being in all his perfection and being a human being he was the pinnacle of the created order right God man and world in one person Jesus Christ and you might say there it is that's that's what God is going to do that's nice for Jesus because he's now in heaven but where do I fit in and that's where the gospel comes in and this is why it is so important in Paul I'm thinking that how God achieves this consummation is through the preaching of the gospel and by the uniting of people through the gospel to that reality so that that reality is being formed in us which brings me then to this diagram which I've modified from Gerhardus Vos can you follow what the logic of this that what God has done in Jesus Christ will will be universally revealed at the consummation the new heavens and the new earth in the lean time it is being formed through the preaching of the gospel in the people of God as we are being transformed from one degree of glory to another and being made more and more into the image of Christ well if you don't like that diagram you needn't have it that's all right but this this is if you're familiar with Vos' Pauline eschatology I think it was about 1934 or something like that it came out somewhere about then I've added you know sort of this is my own version of it see in the Old Testament what we have is the perspective on things when you put it all together is that the old age which includes what God did in the time of Abraham through Moses David etc etc and then that the old age is is shown to be manifestly a failure the exile the destruction of Jerusalem etc etc and the idolatry around so that even the restoration from Babylon and the reconstruction of the Israelite state unto Ezra and Nehemiah and so on turns out not to be the what they're waiting for and so the the prophetic picture of the coming day of the Lord is that one day God will act finally definitively to bring in his kingdom in glory forever and ever world without end and the Old Testament depicts that as a single day doesn't I mean I don't believe that it's saying 24 hours it's saying there will be a single event one coming of the Lord and the old age will finish and the new age will come about now I don't know anybody wants to argue with me on that one that that is how I see the Old Testament perspective on these things there is one coming of the Lord and then that brings about the end and beyond the end is the new age which goes on forever and ever in glory okay when we get to the gospel what it does is it's like it's like you see in sometimes in Time magazine things when they want to deal with a part of the world which is fairly small and people so they give you a big picture of it and point it to where it is you know might be somewhere in Grozny you know Chechnya or somewhere and nobody knows where it is and then they blow it out and they put a blown up version of the little bit in the square so if we take the day of the Lord and blow it up so we can actually see what's in it in the New Testament I believe it looks like this it tells us that the one coming of the Lord when we get close to it is in fact three comings of the Lord that is the coming of Jesus in the flesh the coming of Jesus through the pouring out of his spirit at Pentecost and during this whole age and the coming of Jesus in glory the confirmation and between his first coming and what we usually call the second coming is this period of the gospel our gospel church age however you want to call it in which there is an overlap between the new age which is in heaven where Jesus is wherever you might like to consider that as being and the old age which is where we are so the tension in the Christian life is the tension between being in the old age but not of it being of the new age but not in it all right so that's why we struggle we suffer we press on you know that's the whole the whole bit and that that will not be resolved as Paul talks about you know hope and suffering but hope that that doesn't resolve and it isn't resolved in the end is is a useless hope and if we if we hope for heaven and it never happens then we hope in vain and so the whole thing will be resolved but the point is but I believe that what the new testament is saying is the whole of the end came representatively in Jesus Christ at his first coming if he is truly the kingdom of God if he is truly the new creation if he is God man and world all in one place then the end has come in him but for us not in us in him and it has come perfectly and that is why we can have confidence that what God has done in Christ is finished perfect and cannot be improved on and it can never be downgraded what's more so when Paul in Colossians 3 says you have died he's not saying you know you've all kicked the bucket turned up your toes dropped off the twig or whatever you want to say what he's saying is your relationship to Christ is such that when Christ died you are accounted for having died with him and more than that you say where is my life now your life is hidden with Christ in God so that when Christ who is our life appears what does that mean now what are we evangelical Christians want to make it mean they want to make it mean that Jesus is living his life in me here and now so as one prominent writer put it I'm nothing more than a suit of clothes that Jesus wears which is pious twaddle because who commits the next sin and that's not what Paul is talking about in my view Paul is saying if you want to understand your Christian existence you have to get your brain around something that you are not used to thinking of and that is the real existence which counts for you before God is the existence that was lived on your behalf and is there on your behalf now in the presence of God so this existence brings in the end in every way all the promises of God find their yes in him to Corinthians 1 20 says Paul we bring you the good news that what God promised to the fathers this is fulfilled to us the children by raising Jesus the resurrection of Jesus is the climax of the whole procedure of bringing the universe together representatively the perfect way in the person of Jesus of Nazareth but because God wasn't doing this simply on Jesus account and we know that because Jesus need never have left heaven and become an incarnate being on his own account he only did it on our account so how does it fulfill its goal as being on our account is through the end coming in us as a process so our justification becomes the basis for our understanding the motivation the patterning and so on of our own sanctification and the gathering of the people together through the preaching of the gospel in this whole age so there's a sense in which the end is being formed very imperfectly it's an unfinished work during this whole age and we look forward to the time when as Paul says again in the Colossians 3 passage when Christ who is our life appears then we also shall appear with him in glory or the Romans 8 bit you see the whole creation waiting with longing and expectation for the revealing of the sons of God why because in in this sort of metaphorical way and personifying the the creation which was made to fall he says on our account and the whole creation in a sense is watching you and me because it knows that when the confirmation comes and we are revealed as the children of God openly to the whole universe then the whole universe will be redeemed with us John says the same thing in his first letter chapter 1 chapter 3 of 1 John you know we are the children of God now he says it's you know sort of reassuring you look at me and I look at you and say yeah there's nothing spectacular about that guy people look at us every day they don't come rushing and say oh I can see you're a Christian I can see the Lord in your face or something like that they might think you know after they get to know us but you know reasonably nice guy and don't lose your cool like like others didn't but see we we need reassuring because we know you know just in congregational life together how fallible we are how sinful we are how we we rub each other the wrong way etc etc so to be reminded we are the children of God now it does not yet appear what we shall be he says but we know that when he appears we shall be like him because we shall see him as he is same perspective as Paul's got so I think there again this this ought to help us in in getting our thoughts together about what we do with the old testament now I guess I've strayed a bit from the the actual text of what I want to talk about that's okay I'm happy with that as long as you are what do I do with my thing I'm just looking at what time I've got to stop this here we go 12 to 1 okay we haven't got that long well just just quickly in study three and I'll just run you run you through what I think I I wanted to get over here that Jesus the apostles described Jesus ministry in old testament terms and I've given perhaps you could take a few sort of for instances on that Jesus is is seen as the fulfiller and I'll just mention some of the basic ones like Acts 2 30 to 32 where Peter is preaching on the day of Pentecost and he talks about David and the promise made to David and he said David being a promise spoke that David being a prophet spoke of of the resurrection of the Christ or the Acts 13 of you might see the the wider passage there not all of it but say verses 26 to 32 where Paul brings his sermon on the old testament to a conclusion by saying that what God promised this he has fulfilled by raising Jesus 1 Corinthians 15 I mentioned that one how Paul says that he he delivered the gospel to them that he received which is how Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures and was raised on the third day according to the scriptures 2 Corinthians 1 20 all the promises of God find their yes in Christ by the fact that Jesus is the Christ we often forget it's so simple to forget that Jesus Christ means Jesus Hamashiach the Messiah the anointed one of the old testament promise Matthew 1 1 Mark 1 1 and so on Paul going around convincing you know when he's on his conversion in Acts 9 22 convincing them that Jesus was the Christ the Messiah Jesus is the son of God we've talked about that that it's an important old testament theme so what I'm pointing to is that there are a number of themes that relate to Jesus that keep that come up from time to time in the new testament which we really need to understand in their old testament context see what is being claimed so I won't go into the son of God one the son of man one of course is an interesting one and I'm I'm convinced in my mind that when Jesus and he is the only one I think I'm right in saying here in the gospels he's the only one who called refers to himself as son of man I'm convinced that he's referring to Daniel 7 and what's intriguing about Daniel 7 is that in the Daniel 7 vision you know you remember how it goes he sees has this vision he sees these four ugly critters coming out of the sea and they're sort of you know warring against one another and then the fourth ugly critter comes up and he he destroys the first three and sort of has dominion over them and then he says he sees coming in the clouds of heaven one like a banasha a benardam in Hebrew it's one part of a Aramaic part of that Daniel one like a son of man equals a human being it's just a hebraism unfortunately some of the modern versions have translated it literally well in that idiomatic way I saw one like a like a human being which then breaks the connection between that and Jesus referring to himself as the son of man because what's intriguing about the son of man a number of things first of all he's a human figure secondly he comes from heaven he's a heavenly human figure thirdly he wins wins dominion over the beasts and then later on in the chapter he shares that dominion with the saints of the most high that's I think it's not stretching things to say here is a picture which has its fulfillment in Christ who is the representative human being winning dominion over all godlessness the beasts are obviously symbols of godlessness amongst the nations and so on and then having done his work finished his work he then shares the fruit of it with his people the other interesting thing about it is is that he the the son of man comes to God to receive dominion now when Jesus is seen to ascend into heaven at the end of Luke's gospel in the beginning of the acts we're told that they're gazing up you know as Jesus finished talking to them he's taken up in a cloud and they're gazing up to heaven as he goes and the angels say we know why are you gazing up to have this Jesus will come in like manner as you see him going now it's my firm belief and I'm ready to be shaken out of this if you can prove it to me it's my firm belief that that going in the clouds is the fulfillment of the Daniel 7 coming to God to receive dominion because Peter then preaches in Acts chapter 2 this Jesus whom you crucified God has made both Lord and Christ but the angels now say and this goes back to our diagram here that's the way you saw him go you've seen the son of man going to God to receive dominion and he will come in like manner to share that dominion with his people forever the other the other I find intriguing thing about the the son of man in Daniel is that it's dominion over the beasts and beasts are symbols of human godlessness in Psalm 22 you know save me from the dog and the lion and so on and so forth because at the fall of creation beasts who should have had you know the human beings who should have had dominion over the beasts their dominion is just is wrecked it's dislocated and from that point on you find the beasts at enmity with the human beings Mark's definition or Mark's description of of the temptation of Jesus is that he was led into the wilderness and tempted he doesn't give us any of the details as as Luke and Matthew do but he just says he was with the wild beasts now I suspect what Mark means by that not that Jesus was there sort of holding them at bay but being the true son of man he is living in harmony with the beasts in the wilderness he is exercising as he should as the true human being the true son of man dominion over the beasts now you can argue with that if you like I've mentioned already other other images Jesus is divine John 15 Jesus is the good shepherd John 10 Ezekiel 34 and just the simple fact that I think I'm right in saying there is only one book in the New Testament which does not make frequent quotations from the Old Testament or allusions to Old Testament ideas and that that book is three John one one count was made by one writer is there something like 1600 quotes or allusions to the Old Testament throughout the New Testament interesting is the book of Revelation which has more quotes more allusions to the Old Testament imagery and symbolism and so on than any other book in the New Testament actually has no direct quotes whatsoever I think I'm writing that he's quite happy John is quite happy simply to allude to the imagery but you've no way you could really get on top of what the book of revelation is about a without the gospel and b without the Old Testament okay the second point I want to make is that all categories of the Old Testament view the Old Testament view of the kingdom are in Jesus and I've talked about this I won't I'll just just briefly restate it and we won't go into it any further that we saw that the kingdom consisted of God human beings and the place where God meets his people and see what what more important what more significant what more seminal meeting of God and humankind can there be than in the incarnation where in the same human the same person you have the two perfect natures of God and and human so my third point then is the Old Testament New Testament link there are various ways of doing this and I refer to this book by Sidney Gray Darnis called Preaching Christ from the Old Testament some of you will have seen that and no doubt have read it I think it's a good book as far as it goes my problem with with Gray Darnis is that he suggests I think what I'd say is I think he's over cautious and and made and I think a lot of people think I'm you know throw caution to the wind but I think Gray Darnis is over cautious in that he seems to be suggesting when in the section where he talks about ways of getting from he's got a chapter which he calls New Testament principles for preaching Christ from the Old Testament and a section in that chapter he says many roads lead from the Old Testament to Christ that is there are different ways of getting from an Old Testament text through to Christ and almost gives the impression is that here's an Old Testament text now which one of these seven ways do I use which is the valid way and I think I find that a bit of a problem because I think that these are just simply perspectives on the same basic truth of connect it's helpful to see that you know that these are there he talks about the way over redemptive historical progression the fact that you have progressive revelation of salvation so on the way of promise fulfillment well I'm hard pressed to make any sort of substantial distinction between that and the previous one because within the historical redemptive progression there is the whole process of promise fulfillment the way of typology he sort of mentions typology is one way amongst many and I want to talk to you a bit more about typology which we won't have time in this session but in the next session and just put it to you that I think that typology is in fact if we rightly understand it the sort of the umbrella way of going within which we can see these other various things great artists also mentions the way of analogy the way of longitudinal themes the way of contrast and so on all of which to me would come you know are just different aspects on on the same basic truth so that brings the point four on typology really to to expound the significance of typology in any you know reasonable way would take far longer than we've got I've written about it I think basically typology is the method that I've always run with I've suggested I in I think in the book on preaching that that typology needs to be seen in a broad way rather than starting with examples of the word tupos in the Greek in the New Testament or its cognates and so on ask us ask yourself the question what principle does Paul use when he says this is a this is tupikos of that this is a type of that what actually does he understand to be the structural relationship that enables him to make that kind of a move to the other and I think it's something which is far more widespread in fact I would say it is all-pervading and it doesn't just come up when you have a deliberate reference in the New Testament for something in the Old Testament which is now answered by the type in the New Testament now I know that that's sounding pretty vague but I think the way I would want to go is is to is to perhaps go back to the sort of thing I was trying to represent in those more comprehensive diagrams that if Jesus is God if Jesus is humanity if Jesus is the place where God meets humanity the sense in which as as one writer on the Old Testament says Jesus fulfills the promise of the land and so on Jesus is the world just by being created as a human being then I can't think of anything that comes up in the Old Testament either by way of substance or institution or event which doesn't have its fulfillment in Jesus now I might be raving on here but I really think that it's that in one sense it's as simple as that and it's a matter of asking yourself how how is that how what is going on in the Old Testament and how is that picked up and fulfilled in Jesus even to the extent of saying where where the psalmist deals with the godless persecutors or where the psalmist talks about the judgment of God or where the whole question of sin comes up you know this very important theological principle here when you're trying to describe to people what sin is can you do it without telling them the gospel can you really can you really get to the heart of what the bible teaches about sin without showing what it meant for someone who knew no sin to be made sin for us and to bear the full weight of God's wrath because I think if you don't get to that point then you leave people's idea that sin is just doing he's doing a bad thing here and there telling a lie or you know something is invite to slap on the wrist or maybe a few months in the clink whereas when you come to the gospel and you contemplate what is going on at the cross and that the only reason that Jesus the sinless one suffers and dies on the cross is because we are sinners then that is an example of fact that the the gospel shows us what the problem is that that coming to know what it means for yourself to be a sinner is inseparable from coming to know what it is to be a sinner saved by grace an unbeliever knows has a concept of right and wrong and will invest the word sin with all kinds of things but the true biblical understanding of sin I believe belongs only to the Christian you will never know what it is to be a sinner until you know what it is to be a saved one um look I think that's all to say now it time's up for this session oh have we oh you're right typically okay we'll get we'll take this on just a little bit further then um and and maybe the uh if I can find the right right little diagram let's come back to now a variation on one of these diagrams I put up before of the of the historical structure which got Peter all stirred up right now I realize the printing's a bit small so I'll have to interpret to you what's here this is just taken out of out of a page in a book sort of thing well I've called this the typological structure of the bible and what I'm getting at here is that remember I had the three sort of basic epochs that creation through to Abraham or Genesis 1 to 11 lays the foundation for the redemptive historical movement that starts with Abraham and comes to its climax with David and Solomon and I suggested to you by putting up in a chart form the basic ingredients of that now when I say that every text in the old testament you have me have no trouble with the new testament every text in the old testament testifies in some way of Jesus I mean first of all there's a question of what what we mean by text but I mean that the whole of the old testament testifies to Jesus in some way so what all I'm getting out of here is that in dealing with the old testament wherever you wherever you pick your text for a sermon or a bible study or whatever you've got to look at it in terms of the theology of that text of that particular event that person what is going on in terms of this progression in terms of how God is revealing his kingdom and salvation or redemption in the history of Israel until it goes foul how how the whole concept of and dimension of judgment complements that and helps us to understand something of the nature of the coming of God's kingdom how the prophets during this period of decline and captivity and historical confusion and so on the prophets pick it up and bring bring meaning out of the chaos and project it into the future and simply recapitulate this in terms of the future and how Jesus Christ fulfills it all now I'm with Jesus on this one you see he says he says the Jews you know you search the scriptures you think you'll find them in them eternal life well they testify of me and he says you think you know you appeal to Moses but if you believe Moses you'd believe me why because he wrote about me now I don't think Jesus is saying that Moses only wrote about Jesus when he's talking about the Passover lamb or the sacrifice of burnt offering or something like that but the whole old testament historical process the law the poetic stuff the psalms the hymns the wisdom literature and so on are in some way pointing toward the reality which will only have its its fulfillment and its ultimate meaning in the person work of Jesus Christ so what we have in this first thing is the kingdom of God in Israel's history don't that I think you can just about read that from here anyway it's like up the back and I say there that in this epoch the type is established that there is a progressive building up of the pattern of salvation beginning with Abraham and reaching its climax with Solomon the temple that is what I call the period in which this recording is brought to you by thechristianlibrary.org.au